Curse

Obrien Xp · May 27, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh

Drakkar is the size of almost all the freaking lake... The Charr Dragon isn't that much bigger.

Drakkar is only almost as big as a medium sized lake, he is not nearly as prominent as the Charr Homelands dragon which can be seen with the world map easily, Drakkar cannot.

I have the theme song for the dragons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWjxwF1CQ-4

Thundergods by Sabaton

BenjZee · May 27, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

In this land we have defended from all things dark and cruel. Now we are defenseless in a land where dragons rule.

Pitty innit

draxynnic · May 28, 2009, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

Which makes me wonder, why are they waking up, and WHY did they go to sleep in the first place? was it because they felt that their job was done, similar to the five?

Maybe they were put to sleep, maybe they ate all the available food (the Giganticus Lupus?) and hibernated to allow stocks to recover, or maybe it's just in their biology to hibernate for thousands of years.

Obrien Xp · May 28, 2009, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Maybe they were put to sleep, maybe they ate all the available food (the Giganticus Lupus?) and hibernated to allow stocks to recover, or maybe it's just in their biology to hibernate for thousands of years.

I assume that the gods overpowered them and forced them to sleep, after the gods left, it was only a matter of time.

Neo Atomisk · May 29, 2009, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Obrien Xp

I assume that the gods overpowered them and forced them to sleep, after the gods left, it was only a matter of time.

could we possibly have to summon the gods to kill the dragons?
BRACING FOR EPIC!!

...oh wait they'll just give us blessings >_<

draxynnic · May 29, 2009, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Which everyone will proceed to mock, thinking that those blessings did nothing because they have no mechanical effect displayed, when in fact the final mission design was made assuming you had those blessings because, well, if you DIDN'T have them you wouldn't have a chance.

(Really need to finish that study on the gods when I've finished my thesis.)

Konig Des Todes · May 29, 2009, 07:39 AM // 07:39

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Which everyone will proceed to mock, thinking that those blessings did nothing because they have no mechanical effect displayed, when in fact the final mission design was made assuming you had those blessings because, well, if you DIDN'T have them you wouldn't have a chance.

(Really need to finish that study on the gods when I've finished my thesis.)

When you /dance, you strip yourself of the blessings. That is why Abaddon can auto-kill you.

Although I once believed that the Ancient Dragons were once a "former generation" of gods, I have to say that now I find all Ancient Dragon/God theories ridiculous. Don't know why though...

Free Runner · May 29, 2009, 09:03 AM // 09:03

The Dragon/God theory isnt really that ridiculous when you think about it. When you step back and look at everything it actually looks possible.

The fact they have been there for hundreds of thousands of years, have power that can rival our current gods and that our gods just ignored the fact they were there when creating Tyria (i very much doubt you could miss them). Put that with the gods attempts at cover ups (Abaddon) and the fact we know that some of them had gods come before them.......still plausable. But i hope Anet dont take that road with them - i would prefer something different than "Oh they were the first set of gods".

Konig Des Todes · May 29, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

The Dragon/God theory isnt really that ridiculous when you think about it. When you step back and look at everything it actually looks possible.

The fact they have been there for hundreds of thousands of years, have power that can rival our current gods and that our gods just ignored the fact they were there when creating Tyria (i very much doubt you could miss them). Put that with the gods attempts at cover ups (Abaddon) and the fact we know that some of them had gods come before them.......still plausable. But i hope Anet dont take that road with them - i would prefer something different than "Oh they were the first set of gods".

But the only way we know of how gods are made, are by killing the previous god and taking their energy. If the Ancient Dragons are still alive, how were they succeeded?

Obrien Xp · May 29, 2009, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I feel that there was no succession, I think that it was much the same as the Great Destroyer and the Great Dwarf. One beat the other and the loser was forced to imprisonment and sleep.

draxynnic · Jun 01, 2009, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

But the only way we know of how gods are made, are by killing the previous god and taking their energy. If the Ancient Dragons are still alive, how were they succeeded?

Bolded the key words there - just because we don't know of any others doesn't mean they don't exist.

However, I think it's more likely that they co-existed (peacefully or otherwise) at one point - Melandru is believed to have contributed to the creation of the world, after all. It is possible, however, that some of the gods did gain their power off one of the dragons...

...wouldn't it be ironic if it turned out that the Undead Dragon was named Dhuum?

Konig Des Todes · Jun 01, 2009, 05:27 AM // 05:27

That would be ironic. And I think a more logical theory with the Dragons/ Gods would be that those who became gods killed and absorbed the power of the Ancient Dragons' Generals. We know Duncan was after the Great Destroyers' powers after it got killed, so the power of the generals of the Ancient Dragons could be absorbed and, at least, make a demi-god. Though I don't agree with that theory either. I'd rather think that the Ancient Dragons are actually the last remaining Giganticus Lupicus. No one ever said the GL all looked the same, in fact, we know there were at least two, why not more?

And yes, there may be other ways, but until the "other ways" are at least hinted at, I'm going to avoid them. For now at least.

Free Runner · Jun 01, 2009, 06:52 AM // 06:52

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

But the only way we know of how gods are made, are by killing the previous god and taking their energy. If the Ancient Dragons are still alive, how were they succeeded?

Dhumm? for all we know he managed to survive and was only broken by Grenth. We still dont know his condition. Everything about the god taking powers from a god scenario could be very conditional and lead to a number of outcomes for all we know. If you think about it Dhumm became inactive at least for awhile after Grenth defeated him and the dragons are currently in an inactive state for unknown reasons. Like i said plausable but hopefully not the case.

MBTW · Jun 02, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05

hmm... well they could of just ripped him into small parts and fed them to rabid harpies. Somewhere i read that dragons like Glint and Kuanavg (sp?) are supposedly stronger, but my monk with 58% DP in HM beat glint alone...?

It would make sense if Primodius rose first because, based on the theory the were resting after an epic god-dragon battle or something cool, the smaller ones would wake up first because they need to restore less energy... and the massive dragons like the Char and *possible* KC dragon would need more time to rest seeing as thought they are much larger...

Another thought,
Could it be possible that Primordius and Drakkar are small, yet more cunning and/or quicker where as the Char and *possible* KC dragon are larger, less intelligent and/or slower?

Or Perhaps Drakkar and Primordius are runts... that'd be a fail.

Obrien Xp · Jun 02, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by MBTW

hmm... well they could of just ripped him into small parts and fed them to rabid harpies. Somewhere i read that dragons like Glint and Kuanavg (sp?) are supposedly stronger, but my monk with 58% DP in HM beat glint alone...?

These dragons are more powerful than Glint or Kunnavang. You read the movement wrong.

Konig Des Todes · Jun 02, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by MBTW

Somewhere i read that dragons like Glint and Kuanavg (sp?) are supposedly stronger, but my monk with 58% DP in HM beat glint alone...?

The Ancient Dragons rival the powers of the gods. Glint seems to only rival the power of a chained, weakened, god.

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Originally Posted by MBTW

*possible* KC dragon

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAJPSAKDHSKFLDHKSAFUBSKDHSALIDJHSA

How can you people think that those two Lighthouses are Dragons??? It's... it's just... crazy talk. They are lighthouses! Nothing more, nothing less! X_X_X_X_X_X_X_X_X_X

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Another thought,
Could it be possible that Primordius and Drakkar are small, yet more cunning and/or quicker where as the Char and *possible* KC dragon are larger, less intelligent and/or slower?

-Ignores the idiotic thought that the lighthouses are dragons- Possible, but I think it's more of scaling. That either the "smaller" dragons were made smaller in order to make them fit in the rooms, or that "Grothmar" was scalled too large.

Maybe both.

Keep in mind that "Drakkar" is underneath the ground and thus is bigger than what we directly see *and thus the map image makes him smaller as he is farther from the viewer.

Also, keep in mind that we only see the front of Primordus. And only the front. His wings *if that is what they are* go into the rock, and we do not see how long he is. At least, I think on this one, been too long since I did that mission and GWW doesn't have an in-game pic of him...

Obrien Xp · Jun 03, 2009, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Also, keep in mind that we only see the front of Primordus. And only the front. His wings *if that is what they are* go into the rock, and we do not see how long he is. At least, I think on this one, been too long since I did that mission and GWW doesn't have an in-game pic of him...

GWW has it on his page.

The baby glint has a massive wingspan however, its body is small and shaped like an Iguana or dune lizard. The wings fold back. Glint doesn't have such a muscular neck as primordious, though it could be the fact that she's female.

Just to through it out, any thought on seeing as Glint is female and made of crystal like primordious, we assume he is male.

Mates? (like a husband gone bad millenia ago)

MBTW · Jun 03, 2009, 12:38 AM // 00:38

its not soley the light house, its the dragon-looking crap in KC. ill take some pics and post a visual compairison of Drakkar-Char Dragon

Obrien Xp · Jun 03, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by MBTW

its not soley the light house, its the dragon-looking crap in KC. ill take some pics and post a visual compairison of Drakkar-Char Dragon

Dragon Emperor, Dragon Empire. Ring any bells?

MBTW · Jun 03, 2009, 04:08 AM // 04:08

not decorations, the scaly lumps. will post pics